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Home > Ratings > I-11: Meeting your Arc Enemy

I-11: Meeting your Arc Enemy


Recommended aircraft: fast piston (Beech Baron, Piper Seneca) , slow piston (Cessna Skyhawk, Piper Warrior)



Depart from Corona (KAJO) to Victorville (KVCV), filing PDZ V442 APLES. File an altitude appropriate for your easterly flight, above the published Minimum Enroute Altitude (MEA) associated with the airway.

On departure, fly the published Obstacle Departure Procedure (ODP) to include the hold at PDZ, even if the aircraft is high enough to not warrant the holding procedure. Pilots should inform ATC of their intention to fly the ODP and the hold once airborne so that ATC will anticipate the need for the hold. Request the VOR/DME RWY 17 approach into KVCV, flying the arc from APLES intersection. Fly the approach to minimums, execute the missed approach. Note: X-Plane's nav database uses 109.40 as the VCV VOR frequency whereas the real world frequency is 109.05.

During the missed approach, once clear of the Victorville Class D airspace, cancel IFR and return to Victorville VFR and execute a full stop landing. Pilots who are not yet familiar with the procedures are encouraged to research the topic through other references, especially the topic of flying DME arcs.

The required/recommended material list has been left empty, as it's expected that pilots are able to retrieve Airport Facility Diagrams and instrument approach plates at this stage of the program. The ODP is available in the Special Takeoff Minimums publication, available through various sources, including Skyvector and MyAirplane (see the attached links). At the time of writing, this information is no longer available at AirNav.com.

The ODP is included inline here as a discussion point, but pilots should be become equally comfortable retrieving them through public sources as they should be consulted as part of standard IFR flight planning in cases where course guidance is not provided to the first fix.

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ODP's provide obstacle and terrain separation for departures out of the specified airport. They may be flown any time ATC has not assigned a Standard Instrument Departure (SID) or a radar vector, even when they are not included in the clearance. In some rare cases, they may also be assigned by ATC for separation and traffic flows.

Reviewing the ODP, it can be summarized as follows: Turn towards PDZ VORTAC (left turn off rwy 7 or a right turn from rwy 25). If you'll be departing PDZ on a course of 091-140, or 231-280, you can continue on course after PDZ. Otherwise, HOLD NE at PDZ on the 030 radial, right turns) to cross PDZ at or above 4000 (courses 141-230) or 6700 (281-090).

Careful study of review of V442 prior to the flight will provide the necessary course information to make intelligent decisions regarding the execution of the holding requirement at PDZ.



Attachments
MyAirplane.com
Skyvector.com

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ZLA - Practical Test Standards
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list of requirements for all ratings
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Konstantin on May 1, 12 15:39
Hi hi,
any news about the I11 rating? :)
I guess it's not achievable as KSGU is not available now, right? :)

Cheers,
K.

Randy on Oct 13, 10 22:57
Great!!! Just passed the I-11 and feel wonderful. For Buddie who wondered in April about left to 168 to join the outbound instead of right to 168 as the instructions say, I too wondered about this, but realized, the hold starts at MOKAC. You are not officially in the hold until you cross MOKAC and then turn right to 168 degrees. If you turned left to 168 degrees your first circuit would not begin until you passed MOKAC the first time. Secondary to this (maybe Primary) if you arbitrarily turn left to 168 without first crossing MOKAC, how do you know you are a standard 1 minute turn rate to 348 in the hold pattern, so the right hand turn gets you into the proper hold pattern with standard turns and 1 minute legs. The flight was a hoot. My hats off to all in the ZLA Cert program and to Keith Smith for overseeing it.

Buddy on Apr 12, 10 17:44
Could I possibly get some clarification on something in the directions of this rating. Once the pilot flys the approach at KSGU to minimums, then flys the missed approach and the arc back to MOKAC, I am unclear on the hold as written?

The rating states "Fly the 16 DME arc clockwise to MOKAC and hold as published.....turn right to the outbound leg, heading 168 for 1 minute, then turn right to join the holding course inbound".

Shouldn't this read "turn left" to the outbound leg. This would allow you to turn to 168 degrees to get into the hold. Turning right would put you inbound and not toward the published hold, wouldn't it?

Thanks!

Roddie on Aug 3, 09 13:49
Advanced Pilot Tips has info about flying DME arcs that could be linked.

http://www.laartcc.org/article_page/23


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