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Home > Ratings > I-06: Full Approaches

I-06: Full Approaches


Recommended aircraft: slow piston (Cessna Skyhawk, Piper Warrior) , fast piston (Beech Baron, Piper Seneca)



Note: SID version numbers change from time to time. Be sure to make sure you are using the most current version of a procedure.

Fly from KLAX to KSNA and fly a full approach from SLI, without vectors to final. Using our newfound knowledge of TEC routes from the previous ratings, we know that we should file LAXX8.SLI for jets at 5000, or SLI6.SLI for turboprops at 5000, or SLI6.SLI for good ol' pistons at 4000.

Where possible, ATC usually provides vectors to the final approach course, culminating in the familiar phrase "5 from the marker, fly hdg 220, maintain 2500 until established, cleared for the Easy Peasy 19R approach," or something along those lines.  There are times, however, when ATC will not provide such vectors, leaving the pilot to navigate themselves from the enroute structure (airways) to the various segments of the approach.

Prior to SLI, you'll be cleared for the ILS RWY 19R approach and will be expected to fly the FULL approach as published.  This is the same approach as the one used in the I-1 rating, however, this time, you will not be vectored to the final approach course by ATC.

There are 4 radials identified out of SLI? Which one should you fly? All of this, and a lot more is covered in the Reference article below, Flying the Full Approach.

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Required Materials
KLAX Facility Chart
KSNA Facility Chart
KSNA ILS 19R approach chart
John Wayne ILS rwy 19R approach chart

Related Materials
ATC Transcript
Transcript: KLAX to KSNA with full approach
ZLA - Instructional Video
KLAX-KSNA Instructional Video
Flying LAX's SLI5 departure and the KSNA ILS 19R full approach without vectors
ZLA - Practical Test Standards
IFR Practical Test Standards
list of requirements for all IFR ratings
Practical Test Standards
list of requirements for all ratings
ZLA - Reference
Flying full approaches: The John Wayne ILS RWY 19R
Provides an overview how to fly full approaches, using the KSNA ILS RWY19R as an example. Covers the procedure from the SLI and POM feeder routes.
IFR Cruising Altitudes
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Randy on Apr 28, 10 23:54
I just completed my I-06 Checkride and have to tell you it was a great experience, especially being told I passed. I had two great controllers working with me and would like to recognize them both here and formally on the feedback site, so look there too. Luke Jones, a student ground controller at LAX was awesome. He handled my requests and was not afraid to ask questions when he did not understand what I was requesting. We worked together and I got off the ground eventually, but the process started with Luke and he did great. Second was SoCal Approach/Departure, depending on what phase of the flight I was in, Tom Solon. Another fantastic controller and worthy of praise. He handled a great number of aircraft but still found time to make sure I was flying the SNA full approach as published. Hats off to you both and to the ZLA Pilot Cert Program.

Ron on Nov 27, 09 13:24
how about rating Kevin a 10! i've flown with Kevin Meyers before and this time he examined me for the I-6 ZLA rating...100% of my time with Kevin has been a pleasure. Kevin has a very relaxed demeanor and that helps this pilot be less nervous and more able to concentrate on flyin' my craft. Kevin is courteous, yet professional in the way he interacts with us pilots. not only 'bravo' to me for passing this rating (lol), but a big 'bravo' out to Kevin for being a great controller!

Also, this is a GREAT way to learn the reverse course approach, with a holding pattern...


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